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be accomplished, without a ramping up of military activity in gaza, that's preferable. >> joining us from gaza nbc news foreign correspondent amman mohyeldin. sorry. amman, before we get into the analysis here, give us an update as far as where things stand in terms of egypt's mediating what could be peace talks in this situation? >> sure. yeah. all eyes have shifted away from gaza about a couple hundred miles south of here and it's all about cairo right now because that's where egyptian intelligence officials and egypt's president is negotiating a truce between israel and the palestinian factions. in the last several hours, egypt's president mohamed morsi has met with both the head of hamas's political office and head of islamic jihad, the two biggest factions in gaza. both of them are saying that they're willing to enter truce with israel on certain conditions. these conditions are that gaza lifts a punishing blockade and siege that has been imposed on gaza since 2006 and allows the free moment movement of people in and out of the territory and supplies and medicine. they want assurances from is
at home for joining us this hour. happy friday. what a week this has been. whoever packs president obama's bags is busy. he's going to asia tomorrow. no sitting u.s. president has ever visited the nation of cambodia before, but president obama is about to do so. no sitting president has visited burma either. but president obama is about to go there too. no president has ever done that. when he's there, he will meet with the opposition leader. what is the side note of this historic trip to burma? before the u.s. government decided to send a president to the country, we first decided we were ready to send a rock band to that country. the state department under a brand new president obama in 2009 authorized the great l.a. latin fusion band to go tour burma. a sort of ambassadors for u.s. culture in that part of the world. burma has only finally ended military rule there as of last year. after president obama makes his visit there this weekend, we have now learned we're going to be sending another american musical act to follow up the president's trip. this time it's jason mraz. he's schedul
's big trip that starts tomorrow. he's going to asia tomorrow. no sitting u.s. president has ever visited the nation of cambodia before, but president obama is about to do so. no sitting u.s. president has ever visited burma, either. but president obama is about to go there too. no president has ever done that. when he's there, he will meet with the opposition leader. aung san suu kyi. while he's there. one interesting side note on president obama making this historic trim to burma. which is also called myanmar. in 2009, before the u.s. government decided that they were ready to send a sitting president to that country, we apparently first decided that we were ready to send a rock band to that comprehend. specifically the band ozo motley. the state department under a brand new president obama in 2009 authorized the great l.a. latin fusion band to go tour burma. a sort of ambassadors for u.s. culture in that notoriously closed off authoritarian part of the world. burma has only finally ended military rule there as of last year. after president obama makes his visit there this weekend, we h
on tel aviv since 2006. tell us about what happened, the damage, and the victims? >> sure. they're calling it a terrorist attack, andrea, although not a suicide bombing. it is a commuter bus around lunch time today and at least a dozen people injured. several severely injured. and it's a very familiar sight as you know in this city and around israel but it had been quite a while since there was a bus bombing, since 2004. and it certainly puts people in this country on edge because unlike these rockets that have been coming into israel, that they've been very good at shooting down, this is an attack on the ground within the country and that is not something that people here have faced for a while and they are going to want reassurances in the face of this cease-fire and potential deals down the road, that this kind of thing will not happen. >> and, of course, israel still remains mobilized and that kind of mobilization comes at considerable costs. so, one question that we need to ask and that we can be following up on throughout this hour is whether or not they're pulling back, w
things. those are waiting for you now. we are here for you. you can do this. report back and let us know how it went. that does it for us tonight. have a great thanksgiving. we'll see you monday. and repor and let us know how it went. that's it for us. first look is next. >>> this thanksgiving morning, first look, secretary clinton is on her way home after working out a cease-fire in the middle east. will it hold. >>> a new report on general petraeus. we have details. >> we are a few hours away from macy's thanksgiving parade on nbc. good morning to you. i'm veronica de la cruz. >> the streets are clear this morning after the cease-fire went into effect. thousands went into the streets to celebrate the cease-fire. martin fletcher fletcher joins us from tel aviv, israel with the details. martin, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. it's all quiet. a couple of sirens went off but no rockets have been fired. so far the cease fire is holding about 14 hours after it went into effect at 9:00 local time last night. there were great celebrations in gaza last night, as you mention
to be on the program, i just went, ayyyy! >> so cool. thanks, man. thank you to you at home for joining us. pop quiz, ready? what is the biggest country in the middle east? and i don't mean the biggest by land area. you don't get credit for large swaths of territory. what is the biggest nation in the middle east by population? it turns out it's not at all a close call. it's egypt, by a lot. more than one in five people in the middle east is egyptian. it's not the richest country, it's not geographically in the middle, but it is the center of gravity for both population and the politics of that whole blessed region. geographically, more toward the middle of the whole middle east is the nation of israel, comparatively tiny. if you want to understand where the fighting is centered, you have to zoom in even further to a whole different scale to even be able to see what the relevant border is over which this fighting is happening. looking at it in that context, you might ask, what's that giant border right next to this relativity tiny place being fought over? that's egypt. that's the egyptian border righ
" starts right now. >>> good evening and thanks for staying with us for the next hour. happy thanksgiving eve. this is one of those days when no news is supposed to happen. but it turns out there is a lot of news today, including a lot of news to be thankful for. not least the cease-fire in the middle east that broke out this evening, which we will be getting a live report on from richard engel in gaza in just a couple of minutes. but i'm also thankful tonight to be able to report that the election has finally concluded in arizona, where it took them 14 days to count votes and announce the results this year. in the end, it turns out that all three competitive congressional races in that state went to the democrats. but the competitive u.s. senate race for republican jon kyl's old seat, that seat stayed republican. and yes, the county sheriff who did the whole taxpayer-funded stunt about having his cold case posse uncover the fraud of president obama's birth certificate, that sheriff did get re-elected, barely. last time he won by a 13-point landslide. this time he won by much less than th
louie gohmert can help us out. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. >>> we will know that is the case if we find some kind of mexican wrestling mask in the next pete souza photo from the last year in the former soviet republic of georgia, which to refresh your memory is here sort of wedged into a port of the world called eurasia, in his struggling young nation of georgia, a 75-year-old grandmother was out looking for scrap metal and she happened by some dark miracle she happened upon the cable that connects much of that region to the outside world. the cable that she found when she was looking for scrap metal happened to carry the internet. the whole internet service for that whole part of the world. and because this woman was poor and she thought the cable maybe contained some valuable copper that maybe she could sell, she cut that cable with a shovel. and with that one mighty thwack, that 75-year-old woman severed almost all of the internet in the next door nation of armenia and also in parts of her own nation of geo
lent of cameras in the wake of his resignation over that scandal. >> you can blame it on us. we wanted to spare him that. you know, for any, you know, wait that you did i apologize. there's a lot of suffering going on. >> certain amount of -- sure. all of us in the room have a great regard for him. i've known him nine years now. i actually urged him to run for president a few years ago. >> and democrats use that hearing to rally around susan rice. >> to say that she is unqualified to be secretary of state, i think, is a mistake. and the way it keeps going, it's almost as if -- >> and the middle east on the brink. israel and hamas exchanging fire as casualties mount. amid talk of all-out war. >> will continue to exercise this prudence and self-restraint while defending our citizens against terrorism. >> opening round, president obama and congressional leaders kick off talks to avoid the looming fiscal cliff. >> what folks are looking for and i think all of us agree on this, action. they want to see we are focused on them, not focused on our politics here in washington. >> the framework
about the u.s. economy. i think consumers are where it's at. we just got to get over this fiscal cliff thing. >> jonathan capehart. >> i learned president morsi of egypt is fanatical about "planet of the apes." >> that is really all you need to know. jonathan, thank you so much. rana, steve, michael and everybody, thank you for watching today. if it's "way too early," it's "morning joe." chuck todd is next with "the daily rundown." >>> together again. mitt romney makes his way to the white house. it's not exactly the way he wanted to get there. but can something constructive come out of a private lunch between president obama and the man he defeated just three weeks ago? that's right. that was just three weeks ago. >>> also this morning, a deep dive into america's longest war. look into lessons learned and the sacrifices made by troops at one combat outpost. tell us about what's been accomplished and what's not in more than a decade of fighting. as the country wakes up obsessed with numbers and winners, for the lottery, that, we've got a very important update on the election night numb
them halfway. >> math tells us that you can't get the kind of balanced approach that you need without having rates be part of the equation. we haven't seen a proposal that achieves that, a realistic proposal, that achieves that. the reality is, closing loopholes and ending deductions as an alternative to raising rates on the top earners, top 2%, those making over $250,000, sounds good, but you have to look at the actual contents of those proposals. >>> and a new poll shows the majority of americans do want compromise in order to avoid the fiscal cliff. 67% say a deal should be a combination of spending cuts and tax increases. and if no deal is reached by the end of the year, it's clear who will take the majority of the blame, 45% will say it's the republicans' fault in congress compared to 34% for the president. when it comes to the public's expectations of their elected leaders in washington, two-thirds predict they're going to act like spoiled children. >> oh. >> as opposed to responsible adults. >>> meanwhile, grover norquist is offering a reminder to republicans in congress who ar
in particular to this president's view of us as a world power, specifically as a pacific power. but this trip happens to be going on while something worrying and compelling is happening in a totally unrelated part of the world very far away. so there's our president in thailand standing there with the prime minister of thailand. but our president in the setting is fielding questions about something that's going on 4,000 miles away. around the other side of the globe in the middle east. >> there's no country on earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders. so we are fully supportive of israel's right to defend itself from missiles landing on people's homes and workplaces and potentially killing civilians. my message to all of them was that israel has every right to expect that it does not have missiles fired into its territory. if that can be accomplished without a ramping up of military activity in gaza, that's preferable. not just for the people of gaza, it's also preferable for israelis because if israeli troops are in gaza, they are much more at
later. congressman peter defazio, he's coming on with us a little bit later in the hour and he's indicate thad this fiscal cliff is not what everyone makes it out to be. in fact, he's in favor of or at least considering letting us go off the slope, cliff, whatever you want to call it to get a better congress in january. is that even proper to be discussing it in that direction at this point? >> i know this is going to be a pastacy because that's been a big issue over there. the reality is i don't think the fiscal cliff is not a fiscal cliff. i think it's a slope. i don't think it's going to ruin the economy if it happens over time, but the reality -- the problem is we don't want to cut tax de ww wwe -- we don't want t taxes or increase spending in the middle of an economic downturn. you've got do it where you expect it. the whole fiscal cliff conversation is an acknowledgement that the stimulus actually worked. what we're saying is we don't want to cut the deficit too fast. now when it comes to the fiscal deficit -- >> i want to transition you to the other hot topic that we've
, they renounce violence, use security forces to go after the militants and he's gone so far in recent interviews to admit the palestinians would concede their right to return to the land they or their families held before 1948 inside what is now israel. in return for this, he has seen basically nothing. except for the continued settlement. when they took over the p.a., there were 250,000 settlers in the west bank. today, there are 350,000. assume, for the sake of argument, for a moment, hamas targets israeli civilians because of a cult of death, but a tactic to achieve certain things. this idea that terrorism is adopted by certain groups was articulated by a young state senator at a book event in 2004. >> ultimately, terrorism is a tactic. it's not -- we're not fighting terrorists, we are fighting people who engage in terrorism. but, have a whole host of rationals and excuses for why they do this and to the extent we can change this sense of opportunity in these countries and we can change the manner in which we function in these countries and more positive, proactive ways, then we are not going
hymn standing with a bunch of mannequins they use as a firing range, three of them and then him as the fourth without his shirt on like the manny kins it wasn't meant to be sexual it was meant to be funny. it wasn't interpreted as anything inappropriate according to this person. as for the agent, now that his name is out there, it makes sense about why he called initially a congressman from washington because frederick hump fridays 16-year veteran of the cia, worked in washington state there in 1999, had a big patrol play in investigating the millennium bomb plot against the l.a. airport and he knew the congressman from washington, that he called because that congressman used to be the sheriff there it would make sense he would call that congressman here raentsecently he thought the investigation was stalled. details are falling into place. >> tell me about the house intelligence hearing today. trying to get more information about the benghazi events and general patreaus is meeting with lawmakers in the house and senate tomorrow. >> we are unable to know what is being said becau
. now as head of the palestinian authority, mahmoud abbas has renounced violence, even used security forces to go after militants. he accepts and are recognizes israel and its right to exist. he's gone so far in recent interviews to admit that palestinian was concede their right to return to the land they or their families held before 1948 inside what is now israel in return for this, he has seen basically nothing. except for the continued settlement growth. when aboss took over p.a., there are 350,000 settlers in the west bank. assume that hamas targets israeli civilians not solely because of some cult of death, but that it adopts this as a tactic to achieve certain aims. the idea that terrorism is a tactic adopted by certain groups at times was articulated by a young state senator back at a book event in 2004. >> ultimately terrorism is a tactic. it's not, we're not fighting terrorists, we're fighting people who engage in terrorism. but have a whole host of rationales, and excuses for why they do this. and to the extent that we can change the sense of opportunity in many of these c
overwhelmingly for nonmember status des price strong u.s. and israeli opposition, palestinian authority prime minister sa lem fay yesterday is here with us to react today. good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. president obama took the show on road today. who are not impressed by the administration's opening budget officer. -- offer. joining me is kristen welker, and luke russert. first to you, the calculus in going to the suburbs of philadelphia, kristen, clearly he feels that the political play right now is better than the inside game that didn't work for him during the super committee negotiations, but can that backfire? >> right now the president feels as though he has a fair amount of leverage having won re-election so he's trying to build momentum on the road. remember, this is a tactic that worked for him during the payroll tax cut fight when he went out, took his case to the american people, so he is doing it once again today in hatfield, pennsylvania, a suburb of philadelphia, speaking at a toymaker and making the case that toymaker would be harmed. consumer confidence beg
a u.s. president will visit cambodia an myanmar. >> i have been thinking of the multiple ways as he has to focus on so many things at once but he is doing it. thank you so much. >>> the fifth day in the middle east crisis and a potential tipping point. they are waiting for a potential cease fire or ground invasion. the striels flared today. one rocket toward tel aviv. hamas rocketed and struck a home in the town. and strikes from the land, sea and sky. the latest attack killed at least 12 civilians and a bomb struck two media buildings in gaza. they struck a refugee camp. medical officials say three children were killed. netanyahu says israel is preparing for a quote significant expansion of the operation. ban ki moon is preparing for a trip to egypt as discussions are underway for a truce. delegations will arrive in gaza on tuesday. >>> let's get to the scene on the ground. stephanie is live in tel aviv. i understand some sirens were just going off where you are. what have you heard? what would that indicate? >> reporter: this is the second time today we have heard sirens in tel av
. more clashes in egypt over the weekend as police use tear gas this morning to disburse protesters in cairo. i want to start there. we have "new york times" columnist david brooks and our own andrea mitchell. andrea, this is because president morsi has seized power, a day after brokering a cease-fire between israel and hamas, he is now consolidating power. how worry side the administration about it? >> very worried, but they are very, very cautious because he is their new point of leverage really with hamas. he is the future, they thought, of trying to negotiate something and revive the israeli-palestinian talks. and now suddenly he seizes power. he was looking for this opportunity. he is threatened by the judiciary and the other mubarak forces who have, he believes, stopped the constitutional process and stymied that. but for him to do this now, at his point of greatest authority, puts the administration in a bind. and it's unclear how this is going to resolve. >> david brooks, there's a larger strategic question. there's egypt, gaza, syria, iran. there's a president's second term
and we'll come back with a counter. you can't force us to put an opening bid on entitlement cuts when we don't want any to begin with. and that's the movement. so i think even in public there's starting to be a little bit of moving and i think there is the ability for folks to get there. >> we do know pretty clearly i think that the white house thinks they have the upper hand. here is the president from his event yesterday. >> today i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. tell members of congress what a $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. >> so he's got his outreach to middle class americans. we saw him meeting with business leaders. his event is planned for tomorrow. we campaign-like and he is still using the campaign actually, more than a million people responded to that survey that obama for america put out and said they're interested in volunteering. so is part of what the president is feeling the security he's feeling about getting a deal done the way he wants to get it done from we t
arafat. in 1978, u.s. president jimmy carter helped to broker the peace accords between saadat of egypt and prime minister ba begin of israel which paved the way for the 1979 peace treaty between those two countries. the lalt '80s saw the formation of hamas in the west bank and gaza erasing hopes. the oslo accords signed -- establishing recognition of each side between israel and the plo. years of talks followed and marred by disagreement. mahmoud abbas is elected as arafat's successor by the palestinian people. in the same year, israel withdraws from all settlements in gaz in. hamas then wins big in the elections sending a ripple of worry around the world. since then, the back and forth continued with no definitive end to the conflict. let's be clear, this cribbed version of history doesn't begin to explore the complexity. in fact, i sort of picked and chose which moments of the timeline to highlight, which sa i controversial approach to the story of the middle east. even the starting point that i chose can be deemed controversial. others may begin at britain's involvement or in the 19
honestly disagreed with his recollection of what he told us on september 14th. >> not his recollection here. will this just raise more questions? >> i think for republicans it will. i do get a sense there is fishing for a scandal here on the part of republican members of congress. they had been doing that before the election and i think it hasn't stopped since. i think what we know is that there was a straight forward difference between the cia's initial assessment of what happened on september 11 in benghazi and what they later revised that assessment to be. i don't think there is a scandal there. i think you had the cia giving its best initial assessment to dr. susan rice who then gave that assessment to the public on behalf of the white house and then the assessment changed on the part of the cia. i'm not sure what the scandal is but i've heard words like watergate being thrown around which i think goes a step too far and is too political. >> cameras did not catch petraeus arriving this morning even though there were reporters staking out every possible entrance and all we saw was a blac
't feel bad. >> listen, thank you so much, guys, for being with us. if it's with a too early it's "morning joe." stick around for the guy that all the seniors on capitol hill love, luke russert. >>> opening up behind closed doors, a week after resigning as head of the cia over an extramarital affair david petraeus heads to both sides of capitol hill this morning for hearings on what happened in the leadup and aftermath of the september attack that killed four americans in libya. >>> meanwhile, at the other end of pennsylvania avenue, president obama gets ready to sit down with congressional leaders from both parties to try to figure out the fiscal cliff. is speaker boehner ready to make a deal anytime soon? >>> plus, major news for big business. the justice department hits bp with the biggest criminal penalty ever assessed on a corporation for the 2010 gulf oil spill. >>> and so much for the ideas that twinkies last forever. bankruptcy breaks a big-time baker. >>> good morning from washington. it's friday, november 16, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert in for chuck todd w
. joining us this morning, the national affairs editor for new york magazine and msnbc political analyst, john heilemann. >> he's great. >> boy, what a thanksgiving i had. you can't even imagine. >> i don't want to know. >> did anyone come to your thanksgiving? >> what? huh? >> jon meacham. >> home alone. >> he was home alone again. >> pulitzer perurize-winning historian, jon meacham, author of "jefferson: the art of power." get a copy. >> i gave everybody in my family a book, a thomas jefferson book, with cranberry sauce imported from chattanooga with a bow. >> that's great. >> i actually need a new one because i spilled the yams all over mine. >> also with us, the president of the council on foreign relations, richard haass. nice to have you with us once again. the cohost of cnbc "squawk box," andrew ross sorkin. >> school is off today, so it worked out. >> you beat us to the punch! >> he's preempting. >> very nicely. i'm in a bit of a food coma. i need to admit that. i may be slow. >> well done. and from washington, from "the washington post" newsroom, pulitzer prize-winning editorial
place. from the perspective of the palestinians, they told us they were going out to their farmland and as they approached the fence, that's when they came under attack. there was no mention of them attempting to breach the fence or attack the soldiers on the israeli side. for journalists, we're not even allowed to enter that area. we would be exposed to the threat of israelis who maintain a very strict no go zone area. palestinians thought they could do it and certainly that's what led to the incident today. >> okay. ayman mohyeldin, thank you for that. >>> special correspondent martin fletcher, martin, with a good day to you, to the israeli forces and what they're saying about the charges that they broke the ceasefire. what's from them? >> reporter: well, the israelis, as mark regev said, they are investigating. in these situations there's a shooting, somebody gets killed and then each side is very quick to put their spin on the story and ayman told you what the palestinians are saying. all i can add to what ayman said is reuters, the reuters news agency, the palestinian reporter
back and let us know how it went. >>> inside the numbers, did retailers benefit from opening doors on thanksgiving day? we're going to get some new perspective. the fiscal cliff, might a new wrinkle make it even tougher for the two parties to make a deal? it is one of the big hits of the season, the new film about abraham lincoln, and coming up, a unique take from doris kearns goodwin who wrote the book. imagine if this were your neighbor. one holiday display is drawing a lot of attention. that is in our one-minute playback. wow. good morning, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." let's get to what's happening right now out there. we have some new numbers today. as retailers begin to calculate black friday sales and whether it paid off to open on thanksgiving. all that, plus today is small business saturday, and cyber monday, of course, happens in just two days. nbc's michelle franzen is in n manhattan. >> alex, we've gotten through the first wave, the black friday, include being the early start that began on thanksgiving evening. so how did everything turn out? well, r
leading the u.s. argument on the palestinian vote on symbolic, nonmembership in the general assembly. but there were hearings again on the hill. we'll talk to joe lieberman in a moment. what is state of play whether the president is sticking with her in he did quite the show of support during the cabinet meeting yesterday at a photo op. >> reporter: he has publicly maintained that show of support. officials say that despite the fact that susan rice continues to come under fire from a number of lawmakers, including those woman she met this week say they have more questions after having met with her, senior officials tell me the president is not turning away from her, that he is still holding her up as a high possibility as one of his choices for secretary of state. of course the meetings go on the investigation goes on. senior officials tell me the president is standing by her, not only publicly but privately. >> ruth there have been issued raised whether she was being attacked, criticized because she's a woman, african-american, whether that in fact would make it harder for the repub
and executive editor of msnbc.com and msnbc political analyst karen finney, both are with us here in new york. so, karen, the latest "twilight" movie "breaking down" has just been released. it stars kristin stewart, mitt romney, and members of fox news. just to be clear, the president won re-election because, and tell us which, a goody bag of gifts, altered talking points, or hurricane sandy. which was it? >> actually it was the bureau of labor stats messing around with the data. that's what it was. you forgot that one. >> i'm glad you answered that. that's the sole reason he won. >> it has nothing to do with the fact that even as the president pointed out this week, more people than who voted with him agree with him. >> la, la, la, talking points, benghazi, latinos, minorities, gifts, presents, presents, presents. forget about that. richard. contraception. the world appears to have moved on. the president as we know is attempting to address the issue of the financial fiscal cliff. he's traveling overseas, but how long will it be that his opponents will hang onto this benghazi controversy? gi
meetings in israel and the west bank. for the latest nbc's stephanie gosk joins us and ayman mohyeldin. a report of a tel aviv bus explosion. is there any indication that the israelis now are looking at possibly having a short-term truce or want to hold out long er for a longer deal? >> reporter: well, we don't have a truce. there's a lot of talk yesterday that there would be one, and then this morning, today around lunch time this bus attack. and what we know about it so far is that they're saying it's a terrorist attack, it's not a suicide attack. we were down there earlier today and the security officials were very nervous. they were pushing us back. they thought maybe there were more explosives on the bus. it turned out there weren't. this tactic will be very familiar to people in this city and around israel. it was used about a decade ago frequently all over the kcountr during the second intefadeh but they haven't had an attack like this in israel since 2004 and there hasn't been a terrorist attack on the ground here in tel aviv since 2006. all of this happens amongst all the feve
to "morning joe." with us on set, we have the president of the council on foreign relations, richard haass. richard. >> good morning. >> chairman of deutsche incorporated, donny deutsch. get over it. okay? get over it. >> get over what? what are you talking about? >> all of you are in here. in washington, msnbc and "time" magazine senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> richard's in here? >> i don't know why. i'm serious. what's going on? also, look at this cast we have today, the author of "thomas jefferson, the art of power," historian jon meacham. is meacham here? meacham, look at him. >> lots of books. >> and willie, congratulations on your newest honor. >> thank you. are you in nashville, jon meacham? >> i'm in washington. going to be in nashville tomorrow. >> he needs a pipe in that setting. >> yes, he should, and a fireplace. >> you're saying donny's milking this thing. >> we talked about it for ten minutes. we got on the set and donny's, like, can we do this again today? >> unfortunately, joe and i are on what's called the decaying page. guys falling apart. we're on the preside
apprehensive this could be the final hurdle. you're talking about the presence or the arrival of u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton. there is no doubt the u.s. can play a very important role in this. it can exert a tremendous amount of leverage on the israelis to avoid a ground invasion of the gaza strip. while the u.s. does believe that israel has a right too defend itself there is a widening belief here among many, this is what is being communicated to the u.s. by egyptian officials, that a ground invasion and further military escalation will not solve this. we've been down this road before. >> go ahead, ayman. if you're still there. >> i'm still here. i was saying that they've been down this road before, used the military option back in 2008, and previously it hasn't solved the gaza problem and so many people are saying that this has to stop. to really think of a new paradigm shift in how to solve the crisis in gaza and the larger with the israeli/palestinian conflict. >> yesterday we were talking about the americans passively having too light a footprint in the region, against the back
behind their civilians. the terrorists targets are children and they use their own children as human shields. but if stronger military action proves necessary to stop the barrage of rockets, israel will not hesitate to do what is necessary to defend our people. >> secretary of state hillary clinton is heading to jerusalem to help secure a truce before israel launches a ground invasion. u.n. secretary-general ban ki moon is also there and nine arab leaders are showing solidarity with the palestinians. a big change since the last serious fighting four years ago. earlier today at the u.n., the united states blocked a joint statement condemning the conflict because it didn't mention the root cause which the u.s. says is hamas missile attacks. nbc's martin fletcher is in tel aviv and martin, if there's a talk of cease-fire, what is israel doing dropping leaflets? >> reporter: that's a good question. israel actually -- it has not said that the cease-fire is as far advanced as the arabs have. israel is insisting on a long-term solution and they haven't got that yet. so what they're doing is
." aren't you all excited about thanksgiving? >> yesp. >> with us on set we have msnbc and "time" magazine senior political analyst mark halperin and the -- >> what is that? >> what are you doing? >> i'm trying to use all the things available to me from starbucks. >> i wish you wouldn't. >> yeah. >> making stadium seating. >> we have the chairman of deutsch incorporated donnie deutsch. >> i love when i'm the grownup on the set. >> i broke my glass of wine. >> you did not look comfortable around the kitchen. >> i'm great in the kitchen. >> i'm guessing -- >> what? >> that was never your strong suit, just a guess. >> telling her two chefs what she wants and how she wants it done. >> when thomas roberts sees what you've done over there, he's going to be angry. >> why? >> you made a mess of the studio. >> there's wine all over the floor. >> can we get a shot of this wine. >> lewis was running off and you -- >> i needed him to leave. >> looked like a proct tolgs gone back. >> oh, well. >> you have to love "the new york post". >> a horrible picture of hamas dragging people through the street, ki
the course of the day have been telling us without a comprehensive solution that history is deemed to repeat itself. without a solution to end the problems of the israeli palestinian conflict, particularly here in gaza, expect it to be another round of violence somewhere on the horizon. >> ayman, thank you, reporting from gaza. martin fletcher is standing by now in tel aviv. what's the feeling there today 20 hours after the cease-fire? are people feeling good about this? describe that. >> reporter: to be honest, alex, i don't think people are feeling too bad about it. i think they are very, very glad that the ground invasion did not take place for 30,000 army reservists. another 45,000 ready to be caught up, if necessary. they are very happy to avoid the invasion and the loss of life. and there is a sense here that we wouldn't have achieved much because the only way is this solution to israel's point of view is through peace or through a mighty knockout blow against the islamic militant organization in gaza. that is not going to happen neither will the former. so it is a stalemate situation
in the right direction that we should build on. >> kristen is at the white house for us. happy thanksgiving to you. what are you hearing from the white house on this cease-fire? >> happy thanksgiving, alex. the white house is encouraged by this cease-fire, as you point out. it is a diplomatic success for president obama, for secretary of state hillary clinton. but they are also viewing this cease-fire very cautiously. they know it is fragile so they're keeping that in mind as they continue to monitor the situation. president obama spent part of his day yesterday reaching out to leaders in the region, thanking them for making this cease-fire possible. called egyptian president mahmoud morsi, and benjamin netanyahu. president obama reiterated the united states believes israel has the right to defend itself. also said the united states would take this moment to work towards helping israel to further secure the region. but also talked about the importance of trying to achieve a broader security agreement in the region. and in speaking to egyptian president mahmoud morsi, president obama really
'm preparing for a storm surge of some sort. what happened to the other guy who used to host? >> the other guy, i think, is doing okay. as far as my death, destruction and devastation forecast, i think they'll be back very soon. anchor guy bri, you'll be just fine. no need to be nervous. "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ ♪ it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪ >>> good morning. it's thursday, november 29th. with us here on set, look at the tree all lit up. beautiful. lights went on last night right outside our building here at 30 rock. joining us this morning, the chairman of deutsche inc., donny deutsch, former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst steve rattner, political analyst and former chairman of the rnc, michael steele, in washington anchor for bbc "world news america," katty kay. >> "way too early" with bill karins. >> i'm going to say it again, a star was born. >> don't you think? >> i mean, just elegant, on the money. >> yes. >> glib in the right kind of way, gravitas, all there. >> i love it. >> awake. >> awake. >> that's always helpful. >> the guy who us
with us for the next hour. at almost exactly this point in the presidential race of 1956, on october 29th, 1956, with the election that year coming up just a week later, israel invaded egypt. and they did it with the secret support of two major u.s. allies. france and england. it was a fight over control of the suez canal. the american president at that time, in 1956, was, of course, dwight eisenhower. republican. he was running for re-election against the democratic candidate that year, adlai stevenson. talk about an october surprise. that year it was eight days before election day. both candidates are forced to deal with an unexpected and genuine giant foreign policy crisis. >> on sunday the israeli government ordered total mobilization. on monday, their armed forces penetrated deeply into egypt and to the vicinity of the suez canal, nearly 100 miles away. and on tuesday, the british and french governments delivered a 12-hour ultimatum to israel and egypt, now followed up by armed attack against egypt. the united states was not consulted in any way about any phase of these actions. nor
, just getting going. with us on set, msnbc contributor, put that in quotes, it's up for debate what he contributes, mike barnicle, richard haass, chairman of deutsche inc., donny deutsch and cohost of "the cycle," s.e. cupp. it's not really new. >> it's old now. >> you know what i contribute? i contribute some insight into the growing ego mania that is young willie geist. >> yes! >> the 37-year-old sexiest man on earth? >> what? >> oh, wow, we're doing this 40 seconds in, huh? >> "people" magazine. >> getting it out of the way. there he is. willie geist listed as the sexiest 37-year-old man in america. >> i'm titillated. >> it's not just me saying it anymore, it's documented. >> where am i? am i on the right show? >> later today -- >> this is why i got up early? >> later this morning, we are going to have the new editor of "people" magazine here, helen keller. >> oh! >> that's cruel. >> ba dumb bum. >> long setup. way to go. donny's on there, too. >> donny's on the list, too. >> what was it, "50 shades of grey." >> i was in the decaying category. sexy and decaying. sexy men with gray h
with hamas. turkey will try to broker peace, and there's the u.s. president obama is monitor gt crisis from southeast asia cautioning israel against a full-scale ground invasion like t we saw four years ago. >> israel has every rilt to expect that it does not have missiles fired into its territory. if that can be accomplished without a ramping up of military activity in gaza, that's preferable. >> we have the situation covered with nbc's stephanie gosk in tel aviv and ambassador mark ginsberg, former u.s. ambassador to morocco who advised president carter on middle east policy. what's the latest? >> reporter: toure, negotiations right now are under way for a cease-fi cease-fire. the israeli cabinet is speaking to discuss possible options. they insist that the rocket fire out of gaza end immediately before they will agree to a cease-fire. on the palestinian side, they want the embargo in place since 2006 dropped, and they want the israelis to stop targeting palestinians. now, over the course of the last 24 hours, even though the negotiations are under way, there has been a back and forth of
asia for a regional summit this opened the door to the first u.s. presidential visits to myanmar and cambodia. secretary of state hillary clinton was also there until just moments ago, when she departed for the middle east at the president's request. for more on that, political director and , chuck todd. >> reporter: it's fair to say the events in gaza have overshadowed what the president's been working on here in southeast asia. i can tell you this, last night cambodia time, the president was on the phone until 2:30 in the morning basically doing shuttle diplomacy first with egyptian president morsi and then netanyahu and then back on the phone with morsi. the reason there, obviously, talking to netanyahu getting a sense of what it would take to prevent him from doing the ground invasion into gaza. the talks with morsi are about, this is the egyptian leader, has the direct contacts with hamas. neither united states or israel has that. the decision to send secretary clinton i'm told by white house aides is neither an acknowledgment things are close neither do they feel things got
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